Its Not That Complicated

[debrand]

Olive Plant, you poor, tossed around woman. You need to find some man who will abandon you during one of your pregnancies to go on manly man adventures with Doug then you will understand your true purpose in life.

Kate Botkins has earned my respect for for being able to respond respectfully to the snarkfest of offensive craziness that is in this book. By the way, the Botkins do not like periods(the grammar type not menses) because they write very long sentences that are connected by multiple semicolons and commas

[Minerva]

Every woman's life is built around men and their leadership in some way. Girls who run away from fathers usually end up working for males bosses; women who refuse to commit to a man in marriage are frequently tossed around from boyfriend to boyfriend

That is some piss poor logic.

Women who run away from their fathers (whatever that means) usually work for male bosses because most bosses are male, not because they are women. Most people work for male bosses. Every person's life is built around men and their leadership in some way because business structures favour men.

Women who don't get married usually get tossed around from boyfriend to boyfriend, just as men who don't get married usually get tossed around from girlfriend to girlfriend. This has nothing to do with leadership, and everything to do with the fact that unmarried people are usually unmarried because they haven't found a committed enough relationship, yet.

Some advice for AS&E: if something is true of both men and women, it cannot be used to support a statement made exclusively about women.

feminists who build their identities around not needing men still define their lives and achievements in reference to men: earning as much as a man or doing any job a man can do

Feminists state that group A do not have to depend on group B. Feminists also state that group A should be equal to group B. The two statements are not mutually exclusive.

The Botkinettes are implying that group A comparing their lot to that of group B's in order to illustrate group A's disenfranchisement is the same as group A depending materially, intellectually and emotionally on group B. That is simply dishonest.

Because of how God created the relationship between men and women, we have only two ways of relating to men. As we learned from Eve, not helping them in any way is not an option, and helping in a neutral direction is (physically and metaphysically) impossible.....What we see in Scripture, in history and around us every day is that women only help men in one of two directions: toward God or away from Him

Problem: the same can be said about men. Therefore it cannot be used to illustrate a difference between women and men.

[salex]

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