Joshley Madison Pt 8: Are We Still Talking About This?

[ClaraOswin]

Zillow has a map that shows that address is a big chunk of land that doesn't include the house. Says it's assessed at $425,000ish. The sale info just mentions it being taken off the market it August...It was listed over $1 million.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5723- ... 4500_zpid/

[JenniferJuniper]

Zillow has a map that shows that address is a big chunk of land that doesn't include the house. Says it's assessed at $425,000ish. The sale info just mentions it being taken off the market it August...It was listed over $1 million.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5723- ... 4500_zpid/

Pretty sure some of that is the pre-Duggar info. They bought it when it was still bank-owned. Zillow isn't all that reliable a source. The 425k number they cite is based upon the 9/22 sale figure.

I'll confess I'm not up on Benton County property values, but 425k sounds too high for the house and the one acre, and it sounds too high for the 18.5 acres the Duggars own(ed) alone, unless it's all currently useful and/or build-able. The poster who started this says s/he saw a "For Rent" sign in front of the house which would seem to indicate something is or recently was going on with the house. Maybe the Duggars sold it all for 425k.

Without a reality show, it makes perfect sense that Jim Bob would want liquidate some of his real property assets, and a big ass house with huge utility and maintenance bills would be the first thing I'd be looking at. Including some or all of the adjacent land might have been a way to help offload it.

[luv2laugh]

So let me get this straight... JB sold the Stoneybrook house??? Josh and Anna do not have a home anymore because they sold their house as well? :shock:

[SassyPants]

So let me get this straight... JB sold the Stoneybrook house??? Josh and Anna do not have a home anymore because they sold their house as well? :shock:

I don't think Anna's house has been sold, BUT...

The Duggars' main home is 7000 sq feet- plus they have outbuildings, RVs, acreage, blah, blah. Without jobs, they could be living on JB's property and dime and get the eff over it. They could set up pup tents-

And that's without considering GMM's home and the other various homes that JB and JD purportedly own.

[JenniferJuniper]

So let me get this straight... JB sold the Stoneybrook house??? Josh and Anna do not have a home anymore because they sold their house as well? :shock:

Josh and Anna are not listed as property owners in Benton County. It would seem whatever happened back in August involved their removal from the deed, via sale or transfer. I can't find a record of who currently does own the property, so we don't know for sure who does.

[RosyDaisy]

Am I the only one who is sickened that Josh will/could be near little children?

[ClaraOswin]

I don't think Anna's house has been sold, BUT...

The Duggars' main home is 7000 sq feet- plus they have outbuildings, RVs, acreage, blah, blah. Without jobs, they could be living on JB's property and dime and get the eff over it. They could set up pup tents-

And that's without considering GMM's home and the other various homes that JB and JD purportedly own.

I remember in one of the old specials when they were building the house...JB even makes a comment about how the property is huge and maybe some day some of the kids could have homes on it. Sounded like he wanted his own little commune.

[Coconut Flan]

Jim Bob seems to have bought a neighboring house with a pool recently. Perhaps that was for Anna and the kids?

[SportsgalAnnie]

Am I the only one who is sickened that Josh will/could be near little children?

No

[EmCatlyn]

So let me get this straight... JB sold the Stoneybrook house??? Josh and Anna do not have a home anymore because they sold their house as well? :shock:

There has been speculation that Josh and Anna's house was sold to Duggar enterprises and so the family still owns it. But I think there is a question of whether Anna would want to live there alone without Josh. She was staying with the Duggars just before Amy's wedding, wasn't she? And now she seems to be in Florida with her parents.

I am less worried about their having a "home" than about the money from the sale/transfer being too little. I don't know what Anna could claim if she decided to get a separation/divorce, but I suspect that house (which they had been fixing up) would have brought more in the open market than sold in the family.

I am sure they can all live with Jim Bob or that he will find them a place to live among his properties, but Anna no longer has a house of her own.

[RosyDaisy]

No

Good, because this AM/porn thing seems to be getting way more attention than the fact that Josh molested 5 young girls. Now if grown women come forward and say they were assaulted by adult Josh, that would definitely be horrific as well.

[nastyhobbitses]

No

Nope. Though unless we have proof that he was touching kids recently, I don't think anything can legally prevent him access to his children. Ugh ugh ugh ugh.

[ShepherdontheRock]

Good, because this AM/porn thing seems to be getting way more attention than the fact that Josh molested 5 young girls. Now if grown women come forward and say they were assaulted by adult Josh, that would definitely be horrific as well.

Wasn't Danica basically assaulted by Josh?

Of course, a lot of people don't care, because, in the minds of some people, being a sex worker nullifies the concept of consent.

But, assuming this is true, even if wasn't "technically" rape, it's creepy as fuck and a sign that this a predatory person who has no respect for people's boundaries, and is capable of some very scary, violent, and disgusting things.

I'll leave it here before venturing into dangerous speculation, but I think it would be a good thing for him not to have any more contact with Anna or the kids...

[RosyDaisy]

I'm sorry. I just read Danica's interview again, and she more or less said she felt like she was being raped. Her occupation is irrelevant. Again, I'm sorry. Sexual assault should never be minimized.

[Trynn]

I think the fact that he seems to be more into adult women nowadays shows that his sisters were merely victims of opportunity rather than symptoms of actual pedophilia.

[JenniferJuniper]

Wasn't Danica basically assaulted by Josh?

Of course, a lot of people don't care, because, in the minds of some people, being a sex worker nullifies the concept of consent.

But, assuming this is true, even if wasn't "technically" rape, it's creepy as fuck and a sign that this a predatory person who has no respect for people's boundaries, and is capable of some very scary, violent, and disgusting things.

I'll leave it here before venturing into dangerous speculation, but I think it would be a good thing for him not to have any more contact with Anna or the kids...

If he was that rough with her, it would seem he at least fantasizes about physically abusing women. At 15 he very intentionally assaulted two little girls in their own home. I don't know how huge a leap it would be for him to batter his wife - or children. His culture promotes the submission of wives and the physical discipline of children after all so I'm sure even if he keeps it all in his head - and right now we have no reason to conclude he doesn't - he likely feels entitled to do as he pleases with those "under" him.

This is why patriarchy is so dangerous. As we've seen time and again, it promotes a lifestyle that makes assholes that much worse.

[singsingsing]

We don't even know that Josh and Danica were ever within a mile of each other. Until even a shred of evidence comes out to either support to refute her, we have no idea whether she's telling the truth or just looking for attention and money.

[sawasdee]

This thread seems to have got caught in a kind of time loop, and we are repeating conversations from several pages back. There, it was suggested that the violence was what Josh, as an admirer of Danica's movies, and little real life experience, was doing what he thought was expected - and she did say that it was like her movies, except they were choreographed. It was the lack of advance knowledge of what was happening that quite rightly frightened her. This would explain his demeanour at their second encounter - which seems to have been very apologetic.

I actually don't think him a rapist - just a douche trying to pretend to be a player. His Cupid profile was, to say the least, conventional - his wants are cuddles and bubble baths!

[RosyDaisy]

I think the fact that he seems to be more into adult women nowadays shows that his sisters were merely victims of opportunity rather than symptoms of actual pedophilia.

We don't know that for certain.

[JenniferJuniper]

We don't even know that Josh and Danica were ever within a mile of each other. Until even a shred of evidence comes out to either support to refute her, we have no idea whether she's telling the truth or just looking for attention and money.

While I think it's very possible that she's exaggerating some of the story, I can't imagine anyone would go out of their way to make up a story about a sexual encounter with Josh Duggar. Way too easy to immediately disprove if he had clearly been somewhere else at the time. Not to mention that Josh Duggar, while a major character in the drama here, isn't someone the rest of the people in the world spend too much time thinking about.

[ClaraOswin]

Jim Bob seems to have bought a neighboring house with a pool recently. Perhaps that was for Anna and the kids?

Do you have a link? I want to see this house.

[Rescinded and Mended]

I'm offended by the fact that many fundies who associate with the Duggars seem to be far more upset over Josh cheating on Anna than over the fact that he has a history of child molestation, including victims who were his sisters.

I'm glad to see that not all of them have gone that route, but it still makes me extremely angry to see so many of them put up social media posts about forgiveness when it comes to unwilling victims being touched in ways they could not prevent and would never consent to, then to see these same supporters absolutely lose their minds and insist that Anna should leave when Josh had consensual sex with another adult.

[singsingsing]

While I think it's very possible that she's exaggerating some of the story, I can't imagine anyone would go out of their way to make up a story about a sexual encounter with Josh Duggar. Way too easy to immediately disprove if he had clearly been somewhere else at the time. Not to mention that Josh Duggar, while a major character in the drama here, isn't someone the rest of the people in the world spend too much time thinking about.

Really? His face was splashed across the front page of every news website. It was the height of his notoriety when she came out with her story. She didn't need to prove anything, she just needed to make the claim and get in the tabloids. Look at the tabloids in the check out line at the grocery store - the vast majority of the stuff they print is totally false, but they still sell like hot cakes, because people are gullible and love juicy gossip. It got her a lot of attention, and she's in the entertainment business. She's a porn star. Attention = more work, more money. I'm not saying she is lying, just that she would have ample motivation to lie.

[JenniferJuniper]

Really? His face was splashed across the front page of every news website. It was the height of his notoriety when she came out with her story. She didn't need to prove anything, she just needed to make the claim and get in the tabloids. Look at the tabloids in the check out line at the grocery store - the vast majority of the stuff they print is totally false, but they still sell like hot cakes, because people are gullible and love juicy gossip. It got her a lot of attention, and she's in the entertainment business. She's a porn star. Attention = more work, more money. I'm not saying she is lying, just that she would have ample motivation to lie.

Really.

Save my teen daughter, no one in my immediate family or extended family has a clue who Josh Duggar is, beyond maybe that he's on some reality show with a lot of kids.

Keep in mind that the internets today show you news they think you want to see based upon your search histories. And I don't know most of people on the cover of cheap grocery store tabloids, nor do I care to learn anything about them. I think that goes for most people.

She got her 15 minutes (or maybe more like 8 minutes) that's true, but again, she'd have been debunked immediately if Josh was out of the country or on the West coast singing the Blood song with his family every night around the time she claimed he hired her. Unless she was a big fan and following the family's whereabouts closely, she'd have no way of knowing this and one Youtube video posted by a rabid fan could have branded her a liar immediately.

Makes no sense at all to me that she'd completely fabricate the encounter. I wouldn't be surprised if she was making up or exaggerating the details though.

[RosyDaisy]

19KAC was a very popular show in my neck of the woods. Churches in Tiny Town would love to have the Duggars as guest speakers. So, the Duggars aren't exactly nobodies.