Creepy New Michael Jackson Evidence

[Clementine]

1 hour ago, Grimalkin said:

     Did he name MJ then? I had read some of his interviews but don't recall him naming name. I thought it happend on the set of Lost Boys and it was a person affiliated with that movie. 

Yes. Feldman said that MJ never abused him, just behaved inappropriate.

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Feldman stressed in his interview with Bashir that Jackson never molested him or touched him improperly and that there was no sexual contact between them. But he said he has re-evaluated his friendship with Jackson and has concluded that there were things that happened in their relationship that were inappropriate and wrong.

"If you consider it inappropriate for a man to look at a book of naked pictures with a child that's 13 or 14 years old -- then your answer would be yes."

Feldman says he had such an encounter at Jackson's home when he says they stopped there on the way to Disneyland. "We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia." Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=481709&page=1

As far as I understand, both Feldman and Corey Haim were sexually abused or raped by someone they worked with on The Lost Boys.

[Grimalkin]

25 minutes ago, Clementine said:

Yes. Feldman said that MJ never abused him, just behaved inappropriate.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=481709&page=1

As far as I understand, both Feldman and Corey Haim were sexually abused or raped by someone they worked with on The Lost Boys.

          Thanks. I did remember they were abused on the Lost Boys set but never heard the MJ stuff. 

[SilverBeach]

On 6/21/2016 at 11:59 AM, Cleopatra7 said:

I had heard that a cache of porn was found at Neverland Ranch, but I assumed it was fairly mainstream. As if any of Michael Jackson's interests could ever be mainstream. I'm surprised that more hasn't come out about him now that he's dead. I guess he preemptively took care of that with nondisclosure agreements and payouts.

Just because something was found at neverland doesn't mean it belonged to MJ. He had a big ass staff.

I wish the dead could RIP. 

[SilverBeach]

On 6/22/2016 at 2:25 PM, devoe364 said:

The problem is that the pornography was used to groom potential victims. In the last trial, the victim described looking at the materials with Jackson and his finger prints as well as those of Jackson were on the materials. 

I dont recall hearing anything about pornography or grooming when MJ was on trial.

Anybody here ever heard of planted "evidence"?

There is no way in hades that I would have permitted my child to spend the night with a grown-ass man. Those parents wanted money.

Who really knows anybody? Surely MJ had sexual feelings, and he had a soft spot for children. How that all mixed up with his repressive religious upbringing and emotionally stunted childhood would take an army of psychologists to figure out.

I don't believe for a moment about animals.

[Toothfairy]

Paris posted something about this. It's reallysad how the kids are affect by all this. 

Michael was fucked up. He admitted that the reason why he did plastic surgery was because he hated his father. The whole Jackson clan are crazy. 

I also had a problem with the parents. So you're just going to leave her kids with a stranger no questions asked.  Nobody knows the true celebrities behind  closed doors.

[devoe364]

19 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

I dont recall hearing anything about pornography or grooming when MJ was on trial.

Anybody here ever heard of planted "evidence"?

There is no way in hades that I would have permitted my child to spend the night with a grown-ass man. Those parents wanted money.

Who really knows anybody? Surely MJ had sexual feelings, and he had a soft spot for children. How that all mixed up with his repressive religious upbringing and emotionally stunted childhood would take an army of psychologists to figure out.

I don't believe for a moment about animals.

It has been brought up over and over again since the first trial in the early 1990s. Several celebrity child stars have also talked about looking at pornography with MJ. 

I don't understand the cult that follows this man. He was a fantastic muscian, but he was a messed up man and his inappropriate behaviour with children is well documented. I am not saying that he is at fault for it - his father created this by how he raised him. 

I also do not believe about the animals and never did. 

[SilverBeach]

Just now, devoe364 said:

It has been brought up over and over again since the first trial in the early 1990s. Several celebrity child stars have also talked about looking at pornography with MJ. 

I don't understand the cult that follows this man. He was a fantastic muscian, but he was a messed up man and his inappropriate behaviour with children is well documented. I am not saying that he is at fault for it - his father created this by how he raised him. 

I also do not believe about the animals and never did. 

Oh I am definitely not a cult follower. I admit I didn't pay close attention to all of this back then as I was so busy as a single working mother of a small child .  The Jackson 5 did play a large part in the musical culture of my coming of age years, and they were from  IN, right next door to Chicago. 

It's just that the uber rich like MJ are targets also. Don't pay me off and I will say I looked at porno with you. MJ was incredibly tone deaf, whether the parents approved or not, sleepovers with children in your bed was never a good idea. And, clearly, anyone who destroys their own face is seriously messed up. No doubt about that.

I was molested by my mother's second husband when I was just a young girl of nine. Child sexual abuse is a horror. But I have learned that it isn't wise to believe everything in the news.

Sad situation all the way around. I wish his children didn't have to keep reliving this.

[devoe364]

1 minute ago, SilverBeach said:

Oh I am definitely not a cult follower. I admit I didn't pay close attention to all of this back then as I was so busy as a single working mother of a small child .  The Jackson 5 did play a large part in the musical culture of my coming of age years, and they were from  IN, right next door to Chicago. 

It's just that the uber rich like MJ are targets also. Don't pay me off and I will say I looked at porno with you. MJ was incredibly tone deaf, whether the parents approved or not, sleepovers with children in your bed was never a good idea. And, clearly, anyone who destroys their own face is seriously messed up. No doubt about that.

I was molested by my mother's second husband when I was just a young girl of nine. Child sexual abuse is a horror. But I have learned that it isn't wise to believe everything in the news.

Sad situation all the way around. I wish his children didn't have to keep reliving this.

I was a teenager when it happened and MJ was my favourite musician at the time. I followed the trials closely.

I agree that there are opportunists, however when you have people like Corey Feldman and MacCauley Culkin stating that Jackson did inappropriate things with them (when they had no need to do so, as they didn't and don't exactly need money from him) makes it more believable.

It is awful for his children, however, I wonder how damaged they are from the way they were raised. 

[SnazzyNazzy]

This whole family is whackadoodle, so anything said about any of them, is not shocking. I can believe the stories about Michael, just as easily as I can not believe them.

[Maggie Mae]

10 hours ago, devoe364 said:

I agree that there are opportunists, however when you have people like Corey Feldman and MacCauley Culkin stating that Jackson did inappropriate things with them

Do you have a source for statements by Corey Feldman and Macauley Culkin? I've never either one of them say anything bad about MJ. Mac testified during one of the trials that Michael Jackson never harmed him. Corey wrote in his book about how MJ was a good person who sort of saved him by being so straight edged. 

[Kailash]

On 6/26/2016 at 8:38 AM, Clementine said:

Feldman says he had such an encounter at Jackson's home when he says they stopped there on the way to Disneyland. "We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia." Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him.

 

 

The above is from Clementine's post, I can't figure out how to quote it correctly.

If the book was about venereal diseases and the genitalia, I have to think it wasn't "sexy". Yuck. Would I want an adult man showing my 12 or 13 year old that book? No, but I don't think it's evidence that MJ had ulterior sexual motive for showing that to Corey Feldman. I think it was inappropriate but possibly meant as a cautionary tale, as opposed to sexual abuse.

[devoe364]

12 hours ago, Maggie Mae said:

Do you have a source for statements by Corey Feldman and Macauley Culkin? I've never either one of them say anything bad about MJ. Mac testified during one of the trials that Michael Jackson never harmed him. Corey wrote in his book about how MJ was a good person who sort of saved him by being so straight edged. 

I don't know how to properly post a link, so I'm sorry if I do this wrong:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/11/AR2005051102197.html

They shared a bed, which to me is inappropriate. 

[Gimme a Free RV]

46 minutes ago, devoe364 said:

They shared a bed, which to me is inappropriate. 

An adult sharing a bed with a minor is, in most circumstances,* inappropriate.  MJ HAD to have had psychological issues that prevented him from thinking clearly about the consequences of his actions.

*family members...although this could also be a gray area, depending on the intent of bed sharing and the trust one has in each family member.

When I had just given birth to my youngest, that child and I shared a bed so I could breastfed on demand (please, no flames about possibility of rolling on top of the baby and smothering him), and the ex slept in another room with our toddler so he could wake that child up to go to the bathroom during those potty-training months.  As a family, for financial reasons, we all slept in one room at a later point, while the kids were still very young, so we only had to run one AC window unit.  Times were tight.

 

[devoe364]

1 minute ago, Gimme a Free RV said:

An adult sharing a bed with a minor is, in most circumstances,* inappropriate.  MJ HAD to have had psychological issues that prevented him from thinking clearly about the consequences of his actions.

*family members...although this could also be a gray area, depending on the intent of bed sharing and the trust one has in each family member.

When I had just given birth to my youngest, that child and I shared a bed so I could breastfed on demand (please, no flames about possibility of rolling on top of the baby and smothering him), and the ex slept in another room with our toddler so he could wake that child up to go to the bathroom during those potty-training months.  As a family, for financial reasons, we all slept in one room at a later point, while the kids were still very young, so we only had to run one AC window unit.  Times were tight.

 

I should have been more specific. Sharing a bed with a child you are not related to is generally inappropriate after a certain age. My former friend of mine, her eldest two called me Auntie, and often crawled into bed with me when I stayed at their house. One night, the little boy wandered downstairs at about 2 AM and said he wanted to cuddle with Auntie. That's fine. He was 2.If he was older then a toddler? I would have taken him back up to bed, cuddled him while I read him a story and left him to sleep in his own bed. 

However, given MJ's position, and the fact that there were people who would be willing to make false accusations for personal gain, the only reason he would risk sleeping in the same bed as a child he wasn't related to would be because he could not resist the temptation.  

[Gimme a Free RV]

I agree.  The temptation in a problematic area of his life seemed to override the ability to think logically and morally about the potential consequences of his actions.  If what we've heard about his sleepovers is true, he had an incredibly perverted sense of sharing love with children by sharing his bed.  Of course, his upbringing wasn't "normal" to most of us.  Perhaps "morality" was hammered so hard into the young Jacksons by MJ's parents that the freedom in adulthood was intoxicating.

I don't know.  I'm not a psychologist.  I'm also not "normal."  (Which of us truly is?)  Still, it would take a very disturbed mind to think that doing what allegedly happened out of love or doing it to see if one could get away with it (for kicks and thrills) was permissible.  It is far beyond what I can understand or comprehend.

I believe in a Judgement Day and I also believe that Joe Jackson is going to have a LOT to answer for on that day.  It won't be pretty.

[Geechee Girl]

I've read one of the biographies, "Michael Jackson: The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story 1958-2009." The family was a hot mess of dysfunction. Being the youngest of the Jax 5, he was exposed many inappropriate scenes while sharing a hotel room with his older brothers. The teens had no compunction about hooking up with groupies in the full view of Michael. They also tried to set him up with girls, but he wasn't interested.

He never had a real childhood, and the adults in his life were out to use him. I get why he would want to spend time with children. Were he a member of the kink community, he could have participated in age play with other likeminded adults. He would have had the opportunity to create his own family to suit his dynamics.