Theobros, Patriarchs, Dominionists, Christofascists et al.

[theotherelise]

I've been observing Chase Davis, a pastor of a colorado church that left Acts29 last year. He's part of clear truth media now too and I've been watching him as a barometer of that group. They say Tim Keller was too woke. Davis has been going off about women/feminism and now is harping the same talking points as Wolfe about owning the heritage of ancestors who "settled" in the US. 

These dudes are emboldened right now. They're not just saying women shouldn't preach, they're saying churches should lead women to stay at home. They're not just saying to vote pro-life, they're saying seven mountains bullshit.

I'm highly concerned about these movements. 

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, theotherelise said:

These dudes are emboldened right now. They're not just saying women shouldn't preach, they're saying churches should lead women to stay at home. They're not just saying to vote pro-life, they're saying seven mountains bullshit.

I'm highly concerned about these movements. 

So am I. The media are not paying nearly enough attention to them and the connected Project 2025, much of which is their wish list. Instead, like 2016, the media are printing endless stories about Bidenʻs age, etc.

[thoughtful]

More about Ziklag, which was mentioned earlier in this thread - a Christian nationalist political organization that masquerades as a charity:

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-ziklag-secret-christian-charity-2024-election

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ProPublica and Documented obtained thousands of Ziklag’s members-only email newsletters, internal videos, strategy documents and fundraising pitches, none of which has been previously made public. They reveal the group’s 2024 plans and its long-term goal to underpin every major sphere of influence in American society with Christianity. In the Bible, the city of Ziklag was where David and his soldiers found refuge during their war with King Saul.

“We are in a spiritual battle and locked in a terrible conflict with the powers of darkness,” says a strategy document that lays out Ziklag’s 30-year vision to “redirect the trajectory of American culture toward Christ by bringing back Biblical structure, order and truth to our Nation.”

Ziklag’s 2024 agenda reads like the work of a political organization. It plans to pour money into mobilizing voters in Arizona who are “sympathetic to Republicans” in order to secure “10,640 additional unique votes” — almost the exact margin of President Joe Biden’s win there in 2020. The group also intends to use controversial AI software to enable mass challenges to the eligibility of hundreds of thousands of voters in competitive states.

In a recording of a 2023 internal strategy discussion, a Ziklag official stressed that the objective was the same in other swing states. “The goal is to win,” the official said. “If 75,000 people wins the White House, then how do we get 150,000 people so we make sure we win?”

 

[Howl]

Jenny  Cohn (@JennyCohn1 on Twitter, jennycohn on toadsocial) has covered NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) extensively.  They are 7 Mountains and I think also Ziklag connected.  Many influential people involved in these movements are incredibly wealthy business people.  She has been sounding the alarm about how dangerous and influential they are. 

Right now Jenny Cohn is covering extremeist Christian Nationalist Peter Thiel's support of JD Vance -- Thiel's millions got Vance elected.  

Lara Trump has been busy proclaiming "We don't know nothin' about no Project 2025. Don't know who came up with it, it's a total mystery." 

 

[Howl]

This pretentious twit, he just oozes pretentiousness. Notice he's recording himself speaking -- might be live streaming for his leg humpers. Great response from Mhairi Forrest

 

Also the setting. The quintessential male library -- dark wood paneling and dark leather for gravitas -- where you talk about quintessential male stuff, like disenfranchising half the population. The bookshelves are staged (like everything else in that space), there's no real reading material.  All fake, like Theobros. 

Also, the beards. 

(I think Ms. Forrest meant to say, "Women didn't have a vote, and neither did men." 

[Howl]

I don't know where my tweet went in the previous post.  The post is in reference to pretentious twit and Chritian Nationalist Joel Webbon who heads Right Response Ministry and Covenant Bible Church. This is a Family Integrated Church. For those of you not familiar, Family Integrated Churchs have no accommodations or separate groups for babies, children or teens. Everybody comes to church together.  

Here's an excerpt from the statement on marriage and sexuality from his church's website:  "We believe that God intends marriage between a biological man and a biological woman to be the only context for sexual intercourse to occur. We believe that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, pornography or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex, is sinful and offensive to God in any context.

So, yeah. Joel Webbon.

He could have left it at this, "We believe that God intends marriage between a biological man and a biological woman to be the only context for sexual intercourse to occur" without going into such delicious, tempting detail. 

Edited August 20 by Howl

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, Howl said:

For those of you not familiar, Family Integrated Churches have no accommodations or separate groups for babies, children or teens. Everybody comes to church together.  

Also worth noting that FIC is Scotty Brown's business ministry. Webbon's "church" is in Georgetown, TX.

 

 

 

[Howl]

53 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

Webbon's "church" is in Georgetown, TX.

Well, sort of.  Once a month they meet in the evening on the lawn in front of the  Williamson County Courthouse (in Georgetown) for public prayer and general carrying on. 

Granular detail alert!  We used to start bike rides in Walburg when our cycling club was still active and even had an incredibly good German lunch there a few times. 

On Sundays Webbon's church meets in an old building (Dale's Essenhaus during the week and on Saturdays) in the itty bitty crossroads community of Walburg, TX, 12 miles NE of Georgetown. Walburg is the German restaurant, a post office, an old storefront or two and a few old houses.  There is a lovely area beside the old building with picnic tables under live oaks, and (IIRC) a little stage/platform for live music. 

There is a huge Boerne Christian Assembly vibe going on here.  If y'all recall, Boerne Chrisitian Assembly (also a Family Integrated Church) didn't actually meet in Boerne, but in (again) a tiny crossroads community well outside of Boerne.  

In an area originally settled by Czechs and Germans, the beautiful old churches in that area tend to be Lutheran. It's lovely,  bucolic rolling countryside with mostly empty roads on Sundays. Housing development has begun in that area, so maybe Pastor Webbon will pick up a few families from that. 

So, a note on Williamson County.  Extremely, extremely conservative.  The only good thing about Williamson County is that they have mandates that dogs must fenced in; there are hefty fines for miscreants.  Great for cyclists because you don't get chased by loose dogs  while riding out in the countryside. 

Edited August 20 by Howl

[Howl]

Joel Webbon is a horrible, vile, misogynist, racist human being.  I can't get tweets to show up in my posts, but "He chose a young White doctor over a young Black doctor because the chances of a Black doctor being unqualified, and given a free pass, is higher in today’s world."

 

Edited Tuesday at 01:16 AM by Howl

[Expectopatronus]

@Howl The disgust reaction is directed at his comment, not you. 

[Howl]

12 hours ago, Expectopatronus said:

@Howl The disgust reaction is directed at his comment, not you. 

Yup, the only rational response!  He's disgusting, and in general getting way more coverage than he should for his outrageous beliefs.