Remnant Fellowship 24

[HeavyTesting]

New photos added to Elizabeth’s leadership profile.

I finally figured out who she reminds me of between the raging thigh gap, extreme brows and generally plastic appearance.

 

 

 

Edited August 7 by HeavyTesting

[SerenitybyJan]

These pictures are disturbing. She clearly needs help. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

I can’t help but wonder how her daughters feel. I’m sure they have body issues since they grew up in RF. But I wonder how they see their mother. Do they think she needs medical/psych help? Or do they think she’s just fine?

[HeavyTesting]

20 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I can’t help but wonder how her daughters feel. I’m sure they have body issues since they grew up in RF. But I wonder how they see their mother. Do they think she needs medical/psych help? Or do they think she’s just fine?

They were born into, raised up in and completely sheltered by a community that idolizes their grandmother/mother and esteems thinness. They’ve also been taught to revere authority and shun “worldly” thinking. And they’ve only been allowed to associate with people who do the same.

Not only do they think she’s just fine, they think she’s highly favored.

 

[JermajestyDuggar]

44 minutes ago, HeavyTesting said:

They were born into, raised up in and completely sheltered by a community that idolizes their grandmother/mother and esteems thinness. They’ve also been taught to revere authority and shun “worldly” thinking. And they’ve only been allowed to associate with people who do the same.

Not only do they think she’s just fine, they think she’s highly favored.

 

It’s hard for me to fully believe it because they have eyes. Who knows, maybe you can have body dysmorphia when it comes to other peoples bodies. Maybe they see her as an average size. Maybe they see her size a perfect. Even though the rest of us see something else. 

[RFsurvivor]

1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

It’s hard for me to fully believe it because they have eyes. Who knows, maybe you can have body dysmorphia when it comes to other peoples bodies. Maybe they see her as an average size. Maybe they see her size a perfect. Even though the rest of us see something else. 

When I was a member, I would see people and think they were a “good example to look up to” that now when I look back at photos, I can tell they were quite thin and unhealthy looking. Body dysmorphia is crazy like that. It’s not just a reflection on your own body but how you see every body. 

[HeavyTesting]

Another Remnant divorce, according to Williamson County online records. Calvin and Becki (Sindell) Voorhis are no longer a couple, though their faces still appear on the Remnant weddings page (the link is no longer active -- brings up an oops message). They were married in a New Year's double-wedding with Becki's stepbrother/bride. They never had children, which for a Remnant couple of sevenish years is very odd. She filed. Not sure if one or both still remain in the church (if I had to guess, she is; he has grown out his hair in a very hippie-ish, unRemnant way). Both have a pretty big family presence in the church.

[DietCherryCoke76]

On 7/5/2024 at 7:42 PM, SerenitybyJan said:

It's heartening to know that she is local and still involved with her kids, albeit with the cult breathing over their shoulders. 

She lives not far from the church.  Has gone back to school and become a labor and delivery R.N. She remarried almost immediately after the divorce and is still  in that marriage.

[HeavyTesting]

For a church that didn’t believe in divorce — until the founder got one (or unless it suited her) — the church has seen a fair share of them, particularly in recent years. What others?

Gwen/David Shamblin

Erin/Michael Shamblin

Amanda/Daniel Baker

Sara/Durville Patton

Tanya/Don Fischer

Teresa/Joe Langsdon

Hannah/William Langsdon

Rachel/Ryan Sheridan

Ge’Cobi/Jess Zogg

Marie/David Lechosa

McKenzie/Andrew Mournout

Amy/Randle Catron

Bethany/Jonathan Hagans

Becki/Calvin Voorhis

 

[ElleHouston]

I heard that Sara Patton is a lesbian now. I didn’t care too much for her because she said some VERY hateful things and did a lot of cutthroat things in RF. All from “Gwod” of course. 

[throwaway9988]

I guess divorce is just a free-for-all in Remnant now. I wonder what will be the next thing they moderate their fundamentalist stances on? Their whole identity is tied up in self-righteous superiority that they are supposedly the only church where people are 100% obeying god and 100% pure. Now that they’ve admitted defeat when it comes to one thing, will other things follow? 
 

I think it would be interesting if there ends up being a schism where a group of reformist Remnant members break off and make their own new church that is re-committed to being 100% pure and fully fundamentalist in all the original Remnant ways. I imagine they would claim that Gwen started out on the right track but fell to the sins of lust and divorce in the months before her death, and that she led the church astray by normalizing divorce for her own sinful purposes, and that they need to reforge a pure Remnant that goes back to Gwen’s original teachings. Like a mini protestant reformation, except the religious teachings in questions are Gwod’s instead of God’s. It would be interesting to watch that happen! 

[nelliebelle1197]

8 hours ago, throwaway9988 said:

I guess divorce is just a free-for-all in Remnant now. I wonder what will be the next thing they moderate their fundamentalist stances on? Their whole identity is tied up in self-righteous superiority that they are supposedly the only church where people are 100% obeying god and 100% pure. Now that they’ve admitted defeat when it comes to one thing, will other things follow? 
 

I think it would be interesting if there ends up being a schism where a group of reformist Remnant members break off and make their own new church that is re-committed to being 100% pure and fully fundamentalist in all the original Remnant ways. I imagine they would claim that Gwen started out on the right track but fell to the sins of lust and divorce in the months before her death, and that she led the church astray by normalizing divorce for her own sinful purposes, and that they need to reforge a pure Remnant that goes back to Gwen’s original teachings. Like a mini protestant reformation, except the religious teachings in questions are Gwod’s instead of God’s. It would be interesting to watch that happen! 

The divorce is whatever, typical Christian hypocrites. But the partner shuffling and erasing is downright weird.

[Coconut Flan]

Most people don't even regard Remnant as Christian so free wheeling changing whims based on leadership is just another cult thing they do.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

I find the oddest divorce of all is Hannah and William Langsdon

As far as I know all references/ photos of the marriage have been scrubbed from RF.  William is scrubbed from RF websites and photos. He no longer exists even as a former member. William is also erased from the Langsdon family as if he never existed -- never a child or a sibling.

Rumor is that there is no contact ever between the family and William as he is completely disowned because of his sexual partner preference.

Hannah was quickly married off to Spencer Collins as if her previous marriage never existed. I think she was married within 6 months of her divorce being final.   The engagement announcement lists Hannah as Hannah Blanche Langsdon and very heavily implies that Joe and Maria Langsdon are her parents. 

 

[throwaway9988]

So many spouses disappearing and getting quietly replaced. Reminds me of The Stepford Wives

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Quietly and very very quickly replaced

[MariaariaM]

On 8/10/2024 at 3:55 PM, ElleHouston said:

I heard that Sara Patton is a lesbian now.

A strange way of putting it. Either she always has been and was in the closet - possibly even to herself - or she figured out she is/came out as bi/pan. People don't suddenly turn lesbian.

[noseybutt]

1 hour ago, MariaariaM said:

A strange way of putting it. Either she always has been and was in the closet - possibly even to herself - or she figured out she is/came out as bi/pan. People don't suddenly turn lesbian.

No people do not change orientation but they do change identity.

[SerenitybyJan]

On 8/11/2024 at 4:37 PM, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I find the oddest divorce of all is Hannah and William Langsdon

As far as I know all references/ photos of the marriage have been scrubbed from RF.  William is scrubbed from RF websites and photos. He no longer exists even as a former member. William is also erased from the Langsdon family as if he never existed -- never a child or a sibling.

Rumor is that there is no contact ever between the family and William as he is completely disowned because of his sexual partner preference.

Hannah was quickly married off to Spencer Collins as if her previous marriage never existed. I think she was married within 6 months of her divorce being final.   The engagement announcement lists Hannah as Hannah Blanche Langsdon and very heavily implies that Joe and Maria Langsdon are her parents. 

 

Isn't Maria Langsdon the second wife of Joe Langsdon? I thought William was still close to his actual biological mother. 

All of this switching/swapping/swiping of family members is making me dizzy. 

Also WTH on not allowing people to be gay in this cult. What is Gwod's reasoning there? 

[RFsurvivor]

1 minute ago, SerenitybyJan said:

Isn't Maria Langsdon the second wife of Joe Langsdon? I thought William was still close to his actual biological mother. 

All of this switching/swapping/swiping of family members is making me dizzy. 

Yep. Maria is the second wife and not Will’s biological mom

[HeavyTesting]

17 hours ago, SerenitybyJan said:

Also WTH on not allowing people to be gay in this cult. What is Gwod's reasoning there? 

Gwen/Remnant condemned homosexuality, viewing it as sinful as — horrors — taking an extra bite of food! They were more vocal about it early on.

I recall her Weigh Down Exodus from Strongholds series, which focused on different vices, equating homosexuality with other so-called "sexual sins," such as lust or pornography. A new version of that series, which was being recorded before Gwen died and released after her death, did not go there. I also recall a couple old audios that addressed the subject; one in which Gwen/her cronies mocked homosexuality and one featuring testimony by someone who said she, essentially, prayed the gay away. Eventually it seemed like those old audios were taken out of rotation on Truthstream/All Access. I don't believe that means the church changed its stance, rather it suggests they just knew better than to boldly, publicly share it going forward.

A telling testimony by a former gay Remnant member and how he was treated is included in the HBO "The Way Down" documentary.

[SerenitybyJan]

"The secret to relationships is not trying to find the right person- it is being the right person." from the Remnant Fellowship FB page. 

So...having standards and knowing what you want is not the point. It's changing yourself to mold into whatever that person wants you to be (or what the cult wants you to be). Classic Culty sh!t. 

What a thought-terminating cliche. 

[noseybutt]

2 hours ago, SerenitybyJan said:

"The secret to relationships is not trying to find the right person- it is being the right person." from the Remnant Fellowship FB page. 

So...having standards and knowing what you want is not the point. It's changing yourself to mold into whatever that person wants you to be (or what the cult wants you to be). Classic Culty sh!t. 

What a thought-terminating cliche. 

Also it's hard to ignore that "right people" have apparently divorced and made disappear a crap ton of spouses.

"The secret to relationships is not trying to find the right person-but in making the person you disagree with to have never existed."

[HeavyTesting]

Today’s the day Remnant’s own Princess Grace gets married. In a private ceremony. That’s private. So no peons are invited  — but surely they’re welcome to send a gift from the couple’s three registries. They keep nonprivately pumping up the private wedding on the Remnant Fellowship Weddings Facebook page (stopped counting at five posts this week) … and then reminding people that it’s private, so they’re probably not invited. Tacky!

 

 

 

[HeavyTesting]

I’ll add that while Elizabeth has hidden herself away in her mom’s mansion for three plus years while avoiding the church she claims to lead, Grace and siblings and cousins appear to have been trotted out in the front row like always. And maybe they want to be there, representing the entire family but it seems like quite a burden to be place on young people after so much tragedy and weirdness.