Upcoming Babies 26: More and More and More

[raayx01]

Deena Dillard is expecting baby number 3 after a miscarriage due February 19

[sleepygirl1]

5 hours ago, raayx01 said:

Deena Dillard is expecting baby number 3 after a miscarriage due February 19

After five miscarriages since last June!

[EmiSue]

Plus I think they had a miscarriage between their two boys. Poor family!

[JermajestyDuggar]

34 minutes ago, EmiSue said:

Plus I think they had a miscarriage between their two boys. Poor family!

That’s horrible. I wonder if the doctor has pinpointed a possible reason for recurrent miscarriage. If you have 3 in a row, I think they will do testing to try to find an answer. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

Paige Arndt is having a boy.

[HereticHick]

Anyone else follow the "Raising Arrows" blogger? Her 16-year old son knocked up his 16-year old girlfriend in 2022. They married in Feb. 2023 (they had by then both turned 17) and the baby was born in April 2023. She hustled to finish her son's homeschool "education." Son, DIL and baby have had to live with her off and on (most recently in her living room). Son is now 18 and off to military boot camp--and no big surprise here--baby #2 is due in December. Daughter in law will be 18, or possibly just turned 19, with two babies.

It makes me sick to my stomach how these two kid's life prospects (and their childrens') have been forever diminished by opposition to birth control. 

 

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, HereticHick said:

Anyone else follow the "Raising Arrows" blogger? Her 16-year old son knocked up his 16-year old girlfriend in 2022. They married in Feb. 2023 (they had by then both turned 17) and the baby was born in April 2023. She hustled to finish her son's homeschool "education." Son, DIL and baby have had to live with her off and on (most recently in her living room). Son is now 18 and off to military boot camp--and no big surprise here--baby #2 is due in December. Daughter in law will be 18, or possibly just turned 19, with two babies.

It makes me sick to my stomach how these two kid's life prospects (and their childrens') have been forever diminished by opposition to birth control. 

 

This is why underage marriage should be completely outlawed in the US. 

[SisterCupcake]

3 hours ago, HereticHick said:

Anyone else follow the "Raising Arrows" blogger? Her 16-year old son knocked up his 16-year old girlfriend in 2022. They married in Feb. 2023 (they had by then both turned 17) and the baby was born in April 2023. She hustled to finish her son's homeschool "education." Son, DIL and baby have had to live with her off and on (most recently in her living room). Son is now 18 and off to military boot camp--and no big surprise here--baby #2 is due in December. Daughter in law will be 18, or possibly just turned 19, with two babies.

It makes me sick to my stomach how these two kid's life prospects (and their childrens') have been forever diminished by opposition to birth control. 

 

These folks are fascinating to me because, if you read her posts about when her son and girlfriend first got pregnant, the blogger was so surprised that the kids’ “nonjudgemental” youth ministry turned on them and they had to find another church to attend. I don’t know much about her or the family and maybe they would have responded differently if this had been someone else’s situation, but I can’t help but think “pot, meet kettle.”

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, SisterCupcake said:

These folks are fascinating to me because, if you read her posts about when her son and girlfriend first got pregnant, the blogger was so surprised that the kids’ “nonjudgemental” youth ministry turned on them and they had to find another church to attend. I don’t know much about her or the family and maybe they would have responded differently if this had been someone else’s situation, but I can’t help but think “pot, meet kettle.”

Yes, the members of the leopards eating your face club are so very shocked when leopards eat their faces. 

[HereticHick]

3 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

This is why underage marriage should be completely outlawed in the US. 

I can't decide how I feel about this issue. In this case, if underage marriage were outlawed, there would still be a baby (and possibly #2 on the way). And possibly it wouldn't have the support of the grandparents if the kids had not married. I'm not sure the teens are better off married, but it is quite possible the grandbaby is.

[raayx01]

2 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

I can't decide how I feel about this issue. In this case, if underage marriage were outlawed, there would still be a baby (and possibly #2 on the way). And possibly it wouldn't have the support of the grandparents if the kids had not married. I'm not sure the teens are better off married, but it is quite possible the grandbaby is.

I also think it has a lot to do with insurance. they were only 17 one year away from legally doing it. plus there having a kid together. I think child marriage she be more outlawed in the case of 14 years olds being forced into marriage for religious reasons or to sell to somebody (no pregnancy involved.) that type of marriage should be outlawed. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

32 minutes ago, raayx01 said:

I also think it has a lot to do with insurance. they were only 17 one year away from legally doing it. plus there having a kid together. I think child marriage she be more outlawed in the case of 14 years olds being forced into marriage for religious reasons or to sell to somebody (no pregnancy involved.) that type of marriage should be outlawed. 

Children are still on their parents’ insurance. So they wouldn’t need to get married for insurance purposes. 
 

These kids had to get married if they wanted to live together in order to take care of their baby together. Which is completely ridiculous. 

[raayx01]

9 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Children are still on their parents’ insurance. So they wouldn’t need to get married for insurance purposes. 
 

These kids had to get married if they wanted to live together in order to take care of their baby together. Which is completely ridiculous. 

but the grandkid wouldn't have insurance I dont think

[JermajestyDuggar]

6 hours ago, raayx01 said:

but the grandkid wouldn't have insurance I dont think

That child could qualify for Medicaid. 

[llucie]

Alex from Growinggoodings on instagram is pregnant again (if people remember she had done IVF before, although she also got pregnant naturally "miraculously" at least one time). This one is naturally conceived, they dont have any more frozen embryos, plus now they have converted to the orthodox church and they are against IVF. They lasted in their previous church 2 years, wonder how long it will be in this one. She seems to jump from fixation to fixation and her husband just goes along with it.

[JermajestyDuggar]

30 minutes ago, llucie said:

Alex from Growinggoodings on instagram is pregnant again (if people remember she had done IVF before, although she also got pregnant naturally "miraculously" at least one time). This one is naturally conceived, they dont have any more frozen embryos, plus now they have converted to the orthodox church and they are against IVF. They lasted in their previous church 2 years, wonder how long it will be in this one. She seems to jump from fixation to fixation and her husband just goes along with it.

I think she has a history of miscarriage so I hope this one isn’t lost too. I feel bad for her. She could benefit from grief counseling. 

[NoseyNellie]

RE-Raising Arrows people- The kids got caught doing "the sex"  a baby was on the way and to save face for all they needed to be married.  Now they get to do "the sex" all the time under the rules they were raised with and now baby #2 is on its way.. As long as they were following the RULES of their religion they are a success story to the parents.  

They are and will always been teen parents to multiple kids. 

They are not independent needing the support to live with parents

They are most likely not financially independent and will not be anytime soon as another is on the way so quickly..

And I am sure they are highly under educated.  

[llucie]

10 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I think she has a history of miscarriage so I hope this one isn’t lost too. I feel bad for her. She could benefit from grief counseling. 

I do feel bad for her, she has talked about being abused by her own father and her mother basically abandoning her. I think the fertility/infertility treatments thing seems to have been another fixation of hers. She takes everything to the extreme. I do think she needs counselling.

[Smee]

I think child marriage should be outlawed because children should not be making adult legal decisions until they have the right to make other adult legal decisions and access the resources and protections afforded to adults. My opinion doesn't change based on whether they have a baby or not, or whether that baby was conceived consensually. It is wild enough that people can get married before they can drink at their own wedding, kids getting married before they can vote or get a credit card to pay for a divorce attorney... no. It needs to stop.

[Bassett Lady]

My take on child marriage is that we already have legal mechanisms to emancipate a child and make them a legal adult. 
 

If a person goes through the emancipation process then they can make adult decisions. So, if the young person or people in question meet the high bar for emancipation, let them do that and then they can enter into a marriage if they so wish. 
 

I had a student become emancipated while living in New Mexico. They had to be living apart from the parents, financially supporting themselves and prove it was in their best interest. 
 

It was a high bar and a necessary one for my student to undertake. I provided testimony to their steady class attendance and complete lack of any parental involvement in their education. This 17 year old girl then turned around and got custody of two younger siblings. It was a mammoth undertaking, but unfortunately necessary due to substance abuse. 
 

She became a guardian/mother overnight. It was an overwhelming burden. She needed lots of support and assistance. 
 

Very few young people could have done what she did, but she was a profoundly responsible and resourceful young woman. 
 

I don’t think many young people could ever meet the bar to be emancipated, but if they do then they should be given all existing adult rights, including marriage. 

Edited August 14 by Bassett Lady

[HereticHick]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:29 AM, NoseyNellie said:

RE-Raising Arrows people- The kids got caught doing "the sex"  a baby was on the way and to save face for all they needed to be married.  Now they get to do "the sex" all the time under the rules they were raised with and now baby #2 is on its way.. As long as they were following the RULES of their religion they are a success story to the parents.  

They are and will always been teen parents to multiple kids. 

They are not independent needing the support to live with parents

They are most likely not financially independent and will not be anytime soon as another is on the way so quickly..

And I am sure they are highly under educated.  

The oldest Raising Arrows kid is 26, has a Master's degree & is gainfully employed. He's been married several years and no kids yet. Second oldest is about 23 and beginning a Master's degree program (and is unmarried with no kids). Both attended "real" universities. I think they have gotten an above average homeschool education, as fundy homeschool goes.

What bothers me is the fact that baby #2 is on the way so soon. Both sets of grandparents should have set the teen couple down and said, look, lets seriously talk about natural family planning so you can gets some financial stability before baby #2 comes. Because these grandparents are having to raise (and pay for) these grandkids, and it doesn't appear that either have any spare living spaces to house them.

[JermajestyDuggar]

31 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

The oldest Raising Arrows kid is 26, has a Master's degree & is gainfully employed. He's been married several years and no kids yet. Second oldest is about 23 and beginning a Master's degree program (and is unmarried with no kids). Both attended "real" universities. I think they have gotten an above average homeschool education, as fundy homeschool goes.

What bothers me is the fact that baby #2 is on the way so soon. Both sets of grandparents should have set the teen couple down and said, look, lets seriously talk about natural family planning so you can gets some financial stability before baby #2 comes. Because these grandparents are having to raise (and pay for) these grandkids, and it doesn't appear that either have any spare living spaces to house them.

I agree. If I was taking care of my teen son’s child, I would be talking to him about contraceptives, I would be buying him plenty of condoms, and telling his girlfriend I would drive her to any appointment at the gyno she needed to attend. 

[Jigsaw3]

If teen baby daddy has joined the US military, then they need to be legally married for the couple to access the additional supports available for partners (housing or married housing allowance, TriCare, etc.) And these benefits are considerable, so I do get it. I don't know if the kids are able to access those even if the parents are not married, and I don't know when they start -- during basic? during the post-basic specialisation courses (I think it's called A-school.)

Unfortunately, we know they're not married to access military benefits, they got married to have the godly sex and handwave away the evidence of premarital fun times.

I do actually think that joining the military is not the worst course of action: not only is it a job with benefits, he might be posted far away from his family's BS and she might have the opportunity to meet other wives who introduce her to heathen concepts like birth control. If there's a good family relations group in his unit, they could both benefit.

[WannabeHistorian]

Sarah Waller is pregnant, due 2/20/25. 

[nvmbr02]

5 hours ago, Jigsaw3 said:

If teen baby daddy has joined the US military, then they need to be legally married for the couple to access the additional supports available for partners (housing or married housing allowance, TriCare, etc.) And these benefits are considerable, so I do get it. I don't know if the kids are able to access those even if the parents are not married, and I don't know when they start -- during basic? during the post-basic specialisation courses (I think it's called A-school.)

Unfortunately, we know they're not married to access military benefits, they got married to have the godly sex and handwave away the evidence of premarital fun times.

I do actually think that joining the military is not the worst course of action: not only is it a job with benefits, he might be posted far away from his family's BS and she might have the opportunity to meet other wives who introduce her to heathen concepts like birth control. If there's a good family relations group in his unit, they could both benefit.

The kids would still have access to the benefits even if the parents aren't married (just like the kids keep benefits if there is a divorce and the ex spouse no longer has benefits)  but I am not sure when benefits start. The family members would have to be enrolled in DEERS but I don't know when that happens.