M is for Mama 18

[JermajestyDuggar]

I can’t help but assume Shaun had at least some help with that thing. Braggie kept saying shaun did it. But I have a hard time thinking he did it all by himself. Because we know Braggie lies. 

[MariaariaM]

1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I can’t help but assume Shaun had at least some help with that thing. Braggie kept saying shaun did it. But I have a hard time thinking he did it all by himself. Because we know Braggie lies. 

Of course he did. Even with all the equipment that's not a one man job.

[JDuggs]

OMG go watch Abbie’s IG story from this morning. Last night, one of the girls accidentally stepped on the new puppy they named Winnie and she wasn’t breathing. Shaun did CPR on her and she eventually started breathing. She has a lung contusion and was on oxygen all night. She’s not 100% out of the woods yet. The emergency vet and subsequent treatment will be very expensive. Is she hinting around for people to help her pay for this?

[treehugger]

Getting such a tiny puppy with that many small kids is just the most stupid thing. I’m so angry at their callous, selfish choices. That poor dog. 

Poor kids too. What a traumatizing thing for them to experience. 

Edited September 9 by treehugger

[JermajestyDuggar]

She also mentions that a week after they got their older dog she was in the vet and almost died. She thinks they got the dog sick. Which I totally believe. Because she likely went to a puppy mill to get Ruby and we know puppy mills don’t take good care of their dogs. 
 

Her twins paid for this dog themselves and Braggie is complaining so much about having to pay ridiculously expensive vet bills for this dog. I wish she would listen to herself. You know this is exactly what millions of Americans face every single day but instead of a dog it’s their family member who is receiving life saving treatment and you have to pay thousands of dollars so they will get better. Maybe Braggie will learn her lesson and get pet insurance. Just kidding. She won’t even get insurance for her kids. They do the scammy Christian cost sharing bullshit for their family instead of insurance. 

[TuringMachine]

1 hour ago, treehugger said:

Getting such a tiny puppy with that many small kids is just the most stupid thing. I’m so angry at their callous, selfish choices. That poor dog. 

Poor kids too. What a traumatizing thing for them to experience. 

This also seems like a good example of why I don't like the whole it's the child's pet. Pet ownership is not just the upfront cost, taking it for walks, and feeding it. It's also searching for a quality emergency vet, driving there, and paying huge vet bills. These are not responsibilities for two eleven year olds.

[SassyPants]

Sad story about the dogs. We have paid more in vet bills this year for 2 dogs than we have for health care for 2 mid 60’s adults. I’m talking every visit was $400 at a minimum and we literally went to at least 20 appts between 2 sick Goldens. Crazy expensive. 

I put the H’s in the category of poor pet owners. Really, I get it, with that many kids. The only good answer is no pets until you can care and provide for them all on your own.  

[TuringMachine]

6 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

Sad story about the dogs. We have paid more in vet bills this year for 2 dogs than we have for health care for 2 mid 60’s adults. I’m talking every visit was $400 at a minimum and we literally went to at least 20 appts between 2 sick Goldens. Crazy expensive. 

I put the H’s in the category of poor pet owners. Really, I get it, with that many kids. The only good answer is no pets until you can care and provide for them all on your own.  

I'm still mentally recovering from my cockatiel's health scare last year. Nine years without any health concerns still puts him as less money and stress than my dog owning friends, but still it was a doozy. Multiple emergency vet visits, an overnight stay at the animal hospital, driving an hour to the bird specialist, a couple thousand in bills and one surgery later he's finally a healthy boy again.

Moral of the story: always go to the bird specialist. 
And if there's no bird specialist around, maybe a bird isn't the right pet for you.

That reminds me, has Braggie mentioned those budgies they got a while ago? My guess was they didn't last long once she realized wing clipping wasn't permanent. 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

4 hours ago, JDuggs said:

OMG go watch Abbie’s IG story from this morning. Last night, one of the girls accidentally stepped on the new puppy they named Winnie and she wasn’t breathing. Shaun did CPR on her and she eventually started breathing. She has a lung contusion and was on oxygen all night. She’s not 100% out of the woods yet. The emergency vet and subsequent treatment will be very expensive. Is she hinting around for people to help her pay for this?

Here's the confirmation they got a girl dog! They got a girl so they can breed her. Abbie will be running a puppy mill out of her house. 

Poor Winnie! I have no sympathy for Abbie on paying the vet bills. If she can afford a pickleball arena, she can afford medical care for dog. Any idea what breed?

[JDuggs]

Winnie is a cavapoo. Abbie posted again that the new vet saw shards of something in her stomach. They would normally do surgery to remove them, but they can’t because of the condition of her lungs. This poor puppy.

[JermajestyDuggar]

16 minutes ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Here's the confirmation they got a girl dog! They got a girl so they can breed her. Abbie will be running a puppy mill out of her house. 

Poor Winnie! I have no sympathy for Abbie on paying the vet bills. If she can afford a pickleball arena, she can afford medical care for dog. Any idea what breed?

I believe she bred Ruby only once. Their 6 year old beagle. I personally think she only did it for the content. And if she breeds this dog, it will absolutely be for the content. Some back yard breeders do it to sell the dogs and make money. Some do it for the content like Braggie. I’m sure all of the work will be on the twin girls to take care of the puppies. 

17 minutes ago, JDuggs said:

Winnie is a cavapoo. Abbie posted again that the new vet saw shards of something in her stomach. They would normally do surgery to remove them, but they can’t because of the condition of her lungs. This poor puppy.

Maybe the pup ate something bad before she was stepped on. Sorry but that house is filled with tons of shit. She could have eaten anything.

[Caroline]

3 hours ago, TuringMachine said:

This also seems like a good example of why I don't like the whole it's the child's pet. Pet ownership is not just the upfront cost, taking it for walks, and feeding it. It's also searching for a quality emergency vet, driving there, and paying huge vet bills. These are not responsibilities for two eleven year olds.

We had an adorable Scottish Terrier for fourteen years with very few health-related problems (lucky us). She was supposed to be our daughter's dog, but attached herself completely to my husband. However, we didn't expect our daughter (8 at the time) to take all the responsibility. We all enjoyed taking care of the dog, but my husband was the most invested in all aspects of the dog's life. We are in our mid-60's now, I'm retired, and my husband is hoping to retire soon. I feel like we just can't fit everything a dog requires into our budget, and we've gotten really used to just walking out the door without worrying about getting back within a certain amount of time to take care of the dog. 

In reality, I'm not really a pet person anyway, so that one experience was enough for me. Lovely pet, but I like how much cleaner the house is and not having to worry about pet health. Our own health concerns are enough at the moment!

I'll never understand why people who already have a bunch of kids who need constant attention add a dog or dogs to the mix. It's probably just me. I love calm and quiet and would not have been happy with so many kids in the first place. My school life was my limit of high energy and noise in a day. I'm one of those people who is exhausted by too much social interaction and/or too many things to do in a day. 

Edited September 9 by Caroline

[SassyPants]

23 minutes ago, Caroline said:

We had an adorable Scottish Terrier for fourteen years with very few health-related problems (lucky us). She was supposed to be our daughter's dog, but attached herself completely to my husband. However, we didn't expect our daughter (8 at the time) to take all the responsibility. We all enjoyed taking care of the dog, but my husband was the most invested in all aspects of the dog's life. We are in our mid-60's now, I'm retired, and my husband is hoping to retire soon. I feel like we just can't fit everything a dog requires into our budget, and we've gotten really used to just walking out the door without worrying about getting back within a certain amount of time to take care of the dog. 

In reality, I'm not really a pet person anyway, so that one experience was enough for me. Lovely pet, but I like how much cleaner the house is and not having to worry about pet health. Our own health concerns are enough at the moment!

I'll never understand why people who already have a bunch of kids who need constant attention add a dog or dogs to the mix. It's probably just me. I love calm and quiet and would not have been happy with so many kids in the first place. My school life was my limit of high energy and noise in a day. I'm one of those people who is exhausted by too much social interaction and/or too many things to do in a day. 

I was just mentioning to my husband that our house is always so dirty, like I cannot keep up with the dust and floors. And how this is the dirtiest house we have ever owned (we are in our 60s), despite having no kids ant home, and I am retired. He said, “it’s the inside/ outside dog, and the fact that he takes her to the beach, every day.” Ding, ding, ding- now I feel like less of a slob. A pet, especially a needy dog, is a huge time and money commitment and responsibility-

Our previous dogs spent a lot more time outside or in crates (their choice). Our current dog and the one that just passed have never crated.

This is how our girl rolls!

Edited September 9 by SassyPants

[QuiverFullOfGoats]

1 hour ago, Caroline said:

We had an adorable Scottish Terrier for fourteen years with very few health-related problems (lucky us). She was supposed to be our daughter's dog, but attached herself completely to my husband. However, we didn't expect our daughter (8 at the time) to take all the responsibility. We all enjoyed taking care of the dog, but my husband was the most invested in all aspects of the dog's life. We are in our mid-60's now, I'm retired, and my husband is hoping to retire soon. I feel like we just can't fit everything a dog requires into our budget, and we've gotten really used to just walking out the door without worrying about getting back within a certain amount of time to take care of the dog. 

In reality, I'm not really a pet person anyway, so that one experience was enough for me. Lovely pet, but I like how much cleaner the house is and not having to worry about pet health. Our own health concerns are enough at the moment!

I'll never understand why people who already have a bunch of kids who need constant attention add a dog or dogs to the mix. It's probably just me. I love calm and quiet and would not have been happy with so many kids in the first place. My school life was my limit of high energy and noise in a day. I'm one of those people who is exhausted by too much social interaction and/or too many things to do in a day. 

It’s not just you.  I had 2 dogs who lived over a span of 20+ years with me.  I had a shar-pei who lived to be 14 and passed in 2016, and when my 17 year old chihuahua passed away last year, we became a dog-free family.  I had 3 kids after getting dogs and OMG the mess and the stress of having dogs to take care of on top of children is not worth it to me. We do have cats though, but they are so much easier on me mentally 😂 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

Didn't Abbie say she doesn't believe in "child-proofing" the house? I'm guessing she doesn't dog proof the house either. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

42 minutes ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Didn't Abbie say she doesn't believe in "child-proofing" the house? I'm guessing she doesn't dog proof the house either. 

Yep. She never child proofs and then complains with the twins flooded the downstairs bathroom. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

Braggie is already trying to talk shaun into another family trip to Europe for 2026. Which I suppose might be less expensive because I’m sure she wouldn’t pay for Ezra, Simon, or a nanny in 2026. 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

5 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Braggie is already trying to talk shaun into another family trip to Europe for 2026. Which I suppose might be less expensive because I’m sure she wouldn’t pay for Ezra, Simon, or a nanny in 2026. 

I'm not sure she'd trust the boys on their own for so long, so they might have to come. Plus if they're there, they can be the nannies.

[JermajestyDuggar]

14 minutes ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

I'm not sure she'd trust the boys on their own for so long, so they might have to come. Plus if they're there, they can be the nannies.

They will both be 18 by then so I think she would force them to pay their own way if they want to come. The girls would all be teens by then so they could just be her Nannies. They started when they were 7 so they are pretty much pros at this point. 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

1 minute ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

They will both be 18 by then so I think she would force them to pay their own way if they want to come. The girls would all be teens by then so they could just be her Nannies. They started when they were 7 so they are pretty much pros at this point. 

But my point was she might worry about leaving them alone for that time and what they might get into, unsupervised. It seems like she isn't letting go easily. 

I agree the girls can be her Nannies.

[TuringMachine]

Braggie shared in her stories a man defending trump's "they're eating your dogs" rant.  Oof Braggie, you're supposed to bring attention away from his rapid descent into crazy racist grandpa, not towards it! She'd never make it as a Fox pundit.

Should've just stuck with "I didn't watch it but the moderators were clearly biased against trump".

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 minute ago, TuringMachine said:

Braggie shared in her stories a man defending trump's "they're eating your dogs" rant.  Oof Braggie, you're supposed to bring attention away from his rapid descent into crazy racist grandpa, not towards it! She'd never make it as a Fox pundit.

Should've just stuck with "I didn't watch it but the moderators were clearly biased against trump".

She’s doing some sort of live presentation with Allie Beth Stuckey this weekend. So she makes her ignorant beliefs fairly clear. She’s quite stupid for someone who graduated high school at 16 🙄

[Giraffe]

30 minutes ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

But my point was she might worry about leaving them alone for that time and what they might get into, unsupervised. It seems like she isn't letting go easily. 

I agree the girls can be her Nannies.

Pure ISB. Braggie and Sean are such awful parent that I could see them saying anyone 18+ has to pay their own way in order to go but they also can't stay at the house alone when the family's gone. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

6 minutes ago, Giraffe said:

Pure ISB. Braggie and Sean are such awful parent that I could see them saying anyone 18+ has to pay their own way in order to go but they also can't stay at the house alone when the family's gone. 

I could see her telling her mother to check up on them constantly while they are gone. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

Braggie’s pup is home. And even complained that they shaved the puppy’s legs so now they look like drumsticks. She’s more superficial than Jill. Which says a lot. I remember when she had to shave her 4 month old baby’s head because she didn’t like how it was growing uneven. Wtf? It’s a baby. Who cares?

Edited September 12 by JermajestyDuggar